Already I have heard some excellent speeches. Peter Mandelson has called David Cameron a 'flibbettygibbet', which is, I guess, not the language of a man hankering after a continued public role under a Conservative administration. David Miliband talked cogently about Labour's success coming from a fight against British inertia, but that Labour could also become captured by its own conservatism.Liam Byrne has impressed - with bold (and bald) promises to reform party structures.
As I sat in the Progress Rally I realised that the one element missing from the discussion was the possibility of defeat, but then perhaps this whole meeting was about defeat, and the deadly aftermath, but no-one could bring themselves to give that prospect voice. Oona King had a go, but even after her attempt Jack Straw managed a rallying cry about winning and winning well.
Labour wants to win and the Milibands, Byrnes and Denhams of this world still make those on the left sit up and listen, but the country isn't hearing it. The question this week is, for me, about whether Labour can turn its face to the gravest political likelihood, or continue to stare beyond it into an alternate future. It's not really good enough for me to say that, I know - too easy, and what are my solutions? I don't know - but somehow without that element of levelling with each other and the party the conversation seems inauthentic.